Intel atom z5800 help

nzz

Hi,

I’m new to batocera and need help with my 4GB atom z8500 mini computer!

When using the atom batocera image the system hangs on the initial (joystick logo) loading screen. Nothing happens even if I leave it for an hour. Any idea what’s happening?

The x64 pc image loads fine but is a bit slow, stutters etc. Are there any settings changes you can recommend to make batocera work efficiently on an atom Z8500? Using this version the system struggles to play Dreamcast although it can run 90% performance which isn’t bad. I don’t know what I can lower to boost performance.

I appreciate any advice!!

Thanks

Atari

nzz If the latest image works fine, then use that.

But it’s weird to hear an Atom processor being able to do that. Are you sure about your specs?

nzz

Atari

Van you suggest any settings to make it better? Skip frames etc? I can’t find anything

nzz

Yes I’m sure, it’s quad core atom z5800 upto 2.2Ghz, 4GB

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joinski

nzz

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Atom+x5-Z8500+%40+1.44GHz&id=2581

I guess the Z8500 is a bit too slow in general. Atom CPUs have always been extremely low-performers. Especially older generations (and this one is from 2015).

You could try an older Version of Batocera like 5.21 or 5.25 for example. And you could set the output resolution to 720p, disable Rewind/Bezels/Decorations to hopefully gain a bit more performance.

nzz

joinski I was trying 5.25 and it doesn’t load, just shows the joystick boot screen and that’s it.

mikakunin

For atom cpu
Up to 5.26 for n series.
z series is 29 or 34 or later
Prior to 5.27, there was a problem with HDMI audio, and 30,31,32 may be noisy in the menu.

nzz

mikakunin thank you everyone.

Generally I think the performance is great, Dreamcast is almost playable!!

It struggles on model 3 arcade.

I have no idea what decoration etc is but I’ll turn them off and reduce Max res to 1080p to start off with.

Is celeron good enough to run everything full speed? What’s the minimum you guys suggest?

Thanks

joinski

nzz Is celeron good enough to run everything full speed?

specify “everything”

for systems like ps2, ps3, 3ds, WiiU a celeron (which one exactly?) is not performant enough for full speed emulation.

for everything in full speed i would suggest/recommend an Alder Lake CPU + GPU at least something like GTX 750/1030 and if you want to upscale to 1080p/4k then at least a GTX 1050/1060/1070

nzz

joinski thank you.

I was hoping older hardware could run older consoles ok. I really want arcade machines to work the most. Daytona and stcc work, the sound stutters at times, I guess it could run faster but it’s playable.

Since making changes Crazy Taxi on Dreamcast stutters playing music and sound samples. No idea what I changed to do this. Are there any settings to reduce sounds quality to make it play better?

Thank you

joinski

nzz

I guess for 3D arcade games like Daytona and for Dreamcast games the iGPU of the Atom CPU is too weak. How does Marvel vs. Capcom 2 run? I believe it is an easier to emulate Dreamcast game.

If lowering the render resolution to the minimum (i guess for Dreamcast the native resolution was 640×480) does not help, then i guess you will need a better CPU/GPU to run Dreamcast games in full speed without issues.

Maybe there are other emulator-tweaks that could help gaining a bit performance, but i don’t know (maybe google helps). I guess you already tried the different emulator/cores with different settings?

Did you try emulation with your machine on Windows yet?

nzz

nzz crazy taxi works great! The solution was to change the default emulator in batocera! It was that simple! I think I now use redream and it’s perfect!!

One annoying thing is when batocera struggles with loading some games it goes to the home screen, I hear batocera music but the screen is black. Is this a bug? I might try recalbox or lakka to see if they work better.

Batocera also losses my joypad Bluetooth connection between reboots. It’s paired but they don’t connect anymore. Any ideas?

Thanks

joinski

nzz One annoying thing is when batocera struggles with loading some games it goes to the home screen, I hear batocera music but the screen is black. Is this a bug?

logs

nzz Batocera also losses my joypad Bluetooth connection between reboots. It’s paired but they don’t connect anymore. Any ideas?

what joypad exactly do you use?

nzz

joinski

I use mocute Bluetooth joypad.

I might uses the rest button and re-pair them and see if it works better.

Of the systems which one has three best performance/setup, batocera, recalbox, retropie, lakka?

Thank you

Atari

nzz Just jumping in to say Mocute is known for controllers not remember the host device they last connected to, it’s not an issue specific to Batocera.